Comments on: J Krishnamurti and Yogavaasishta http://arachnid.wordpress.com/2008/02/16/j-krishnamurti-and-yogavaasishta/ This is where I share all my intellectual cerebrations. These thoughts are, more often than not, about films, literature, art, aesthetics, music and - well - some shades of other pieces of my mind. Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:22:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: Gokul http://arachnid.wordpress.com/2008/02/16/j-krishnamurti-and-yogavaasishta/#comment-671 Gokul Fri, 23 May 2008 20:35:11 +0000 http://arachnid.wordpress.com/?p=73#comment-671 Hi.. i just chanced upon your blog post.. nice one :) funny you said this might not be favoured by Krishnamurti followers because of the 'Hindu' tag. In fact the first thing that occurs to me while reading this is that a lot of religions and scriptures have been saying the same thing in different ways (in many cases with astonishing similarity like you've mentioned), only that the context and situation is very different. Honestly, i haven't looked for reflections of K's observations in other scriptures or anything else in order to find comfort, simply because when I read him, there is nothing to accept or deny, there was just the fact, and that brings with it a great sensitivity and energy. The fact that many religions of the world say the same thing in many of their scriptures (including the bible) excites me very much, at the same time I am astonished to see that the actual meaning is lost most of the time and and a tremendous amount of importance, energy and time is given to totally irrelevant matters of so called 'religion', which even leads to horrid wars. Wonder why we fail to see the essence of anything, however simple and direct it is.. <b>Reply:</b> I completely agree with you Gokul. And I can't tell you how glad I am to find that out! - <i>ritwik</i> Hi.. i just chanced upon your blog post.. nice one :) funny you said this might not be favoured by Krishnamurti followers because of the ‘Hindu’ tag. In fact the first thing that occurs to me while reading this is that a lot of religions and scriptures have been saying the same thing in different ways (in many cases with astonishing similarity like you’ve mentioned), only that the context and situation is very different. Honestly, i haven’t looked for reflections of K’s observations in other scriptures or anything else in order to find comfort, simply because when I read him, there is nothing to accept or deny, there was just the fact, and that brings with it a great sensitivity and energy. The fact that many religions of the world say the same thing in many of their scriptures (including the bible) excites me very much, at the same time I am astonished to see that the actual meaning is lost most of the time and and a tremendous amount of importance, energy and time is given to totally irrelevant matters of so called ‘religion’, which even leads to horrid wars. Wonder why we fail to see the essence of anything, however simple and direct it is..

Reply: I completely agree with you Gokul. And I can’t tell you how glad I am to find that out!

- ritwik

]]> By: Sudha http://arachnid.wordpress.com/2008/02/16/j-krishnamurti-and-yogavaasishta/#comment-640 Sudha Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:59:57 +0000 http://arachnid.wordpress.com/?p=73#comment-640 Hey thanks for leaving a comment! You dont always have to make a point in a comment. It could be just an acknowledgement of the blogger's efforts too. btw, it brought me to ur page and I immensely enjoyed the poems here! They all leave a kind of trail even after u finish reading them. Will be around! <b>Reply:</b> Thank you Sudha for leaving such a kind and encouraging comment. It brings a smile to my face to know that you liked my poems this much! :) - <i>ritwik</i> Hey thanks for leaving a comment! You dont always have to make a point in a comment. It could be just an acknowledgement of the blogger’s efforts too.
btw, it brought me to ur page and I immensely enjoyed the poems here! They all leave a kind of trail even after u finish reading them.
Will be around!

Reply: Thank you Sudha for leaving such a kind and encouraging comment. It brings a smile to my face to know that you liked my poems this much! :)

- ritwik

]]> By: sea of memories http://arachnid.wordpress.com/2008/02/16/j-krishnamurti-and-yogavaasishta/#comment-635 sea of memories Sun, 09 Mar 2008 10:12:53 +0000 http://arachnid.wordpress.com/?p=73#comment-635 Hello? Anybody home? :) Hello? Anybody home? :)

]]> By: Ravindra Joshi http://arachnid.wordpress.com/2008/02/16/j-krishnamurti-and-yogavaasishta/#comment-633 Ravindra Joshi Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:07:49 +0000 http://arachnid.wordpress.com/?p=73#comment-633 Many thanks, Ritwik, for the post. I found it both interesting and stimulating. Here are a couple of comments though: One, the term "Krishnamurti fans" tickled me a great deal. I wonder what the mindset that produces 'fans' has got to do with Krishnamurti? A contradiction in terms, as it were. Either you are a fan and have no relationship with what K had to say. Or you relate to what K had to say and hence can not possibly be a fan of anyone, let alone K's Two, how many of us - including me - look for reflection of K's teaching in the traditional scriptures, whether Hindu, Christian, Buddhist or whatever! And only on finding such reflection do we feel assured of the rightness of K's teaching. How terribly afraid we are of looking for truth entirely by oursekves! Ravindra Joshi <b>Reply</b>: You are quite correct in pointing out the meaninglessness of the phrase "Krishnamurti fans". But sadly, I feel there is such a category of people. There is, unfortunately, a small crowd for whom J K is a religion (I use the word in its widely understood meaning, not its true significance). The ironic phrase has been aimed towards that crowd. As for the second point you raised, I did not mean to create the impression you got. I was merely excited over the similarities. I only wanted to propagate the idea that the ideas J K has popularized, are not exotic, not new; dazzling, but not in their innovation. His thoughts are the product of an intense honesty, and so was our great civilization. And is their any other way of achieving greatness? I hope you agree! - <i>ritwik</i> Many thanks, Ritwik, for the post. I found it both interesting and stimulating.
Here are a couple of comments though:
One, the term “Krishnamurti fans” tickled me a great deal. I wonder what the mindset that produces ‘fans’ has got to do with Krishnamurti? A contradiction in terms, as it were. Either you are a fan and have no relationship with what K had to say. Or you relate to what K had to say and hence can not possibly be a fan of anyone, let alone K’s
Two, how many of us - including me - look for reflection of K’s teaching in the traditional scriptures, whether Hindu, Christian, Buddhist or whatever! And only on finding such reflection do we feel assured of the rightness of K’s teaching. How terribly afraid we are of looking for truth entirely by oursekves!
Ravindra Joshi

Reply: You are quite correct in pointing out the meaninglessness of the phrase “Krishnamurti fans”. But sadly, I feel there is such a category of people. There is, unfortunately, a small crowd for whom J K is a religion (I use the word in its widely understood meaning, not its true significance). The ironic phrase has been aimed towards that crowd. As for the second point you raised, I did not mean to create the impression you got. I was merely excited over the similarities. I only wanted to propagate the idea that the ideas J K has popularized, are not exotic, not new; dazzling, but not in their innovation. His thoughts are the product of an intense honesty, and so was our great civilization. And is their any other way of achieving greatness? I hope you agree!

- ritwik

]]> By: brahnamin http://arachnid.wordpress.com/2008/02/16/j-krishnamurti-and-yogavaasishta/#comment-630 brahnamin Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:41:19 +0000 http://arachnid.wordpress.com/?p=73#comment-630 i don't know about your other regular readers, but i found your post pretty cool. and by cool i mean thought provoking. and, in some segments, thought revoking (thought being chained to my thoughts i do admit i find it hard to achieve the freedom of non-thought). excellent post. <b>Reply</b>: Thank you. I am glad that your thoughts were both provoked and revoked. Gets a trifle insipid otherwise. - <i>ritwik</i> i don’t know about your other regular readers, but i found your post pretty cool. and by cool i mean thought provoking. and, in some segments, thought revoking (thought being chained to my thoughts i do admit i find it hard to achieve the freedom of non-thought).

excellent post.

Reply: Thank you. I am glad that your thoughts were both provoked and revoked. Gets a trifle insipid otherwise.

- ritwik

]]> By: anshul http://arachnid.wordpress.com/2008/02/16/j-krishnamurti-and-yogavaasishta/#comment-627 anshul Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:04:35 +0000 http://arachnid.wordpress.com/?p=73#comment-627 No. That's not how you anger JK fans. In fact I am simultaneously an authority and a non authority on this matter of annoying JK fans. Here goes. After reading these fine excerpts from JK, it appears to me that any criticism of JK can only be appreciation of him because the magic of his words, if can make you act foolishly, can also make you act wise. In fact, any action that results from the power of his works must also lead to inaction because after all action and inaction are the same thing, aren't they? Thus anytime JK is contradicting himself, he is actually agreeing with himself and proving in his masterful ways that consistency can only come from inconsistency and inconsistency can only come from consistency and there in lies the reason why the observer in you, while should be distinct from you must also be the same. Ok. I am done. Sorry, I couldn't resist! :P <b>Reply:</b> KGB - <i>ritwik</i> P.S. KGB: <i>abstract noun</i>, acr. "Khandelwal gone bonkers". <i>Etym.</i> Anshul Khandelwal once decided to lose his head. No. That’s not how you anger JK fans. In fact I am simultaneously an authority and a non authority on this matter of annoying JK fans. Here goes.

After reading these fine excerpts from JK, it appears to me that any criticism of JK can only be appreciation of him because the magic of his words, if can make you act foolishly, can also make you act wise. In fact, any action that results from the power of his works must also lead to inaction because after all action and inaction are the same thing, aren’t they? Thus anytime JK is contradicting himself, he is actually agreeing with himself and proving in his masterful ways that consistency can only come from inconsistency and inconsistency can only come from consistency and there in lies the reason why the observer in you, while should be distinct from you must also be the same.

Ok. I am done. Sorry, I couldn’t resist! :P

Reply: KGB

- ritwik

P.S. KGB: abstract noun, acr. “Khandelwal gone bonkers”. Etym. Anshul Khandelwal once decided to lose his head.

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